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	<title>Comments on: Don’t Let This Happen To You #22: PART 3.  A Discussion About Elective Primary Cesarean Section &amp; Cesarean Delivery on Maternal Request (CDMR)</title>
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		<title>By: Clysta</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a really!! late post, but I&#039;ve been doing all the possible research I can on pregnancy and labor. (I&#039;m a few months along with my first and am trying to figure out what to expect) I&#039;m shocked that there are doctors that actually doing this stuff. I was reading the past posts of people, and was nearly in tears at some of it. I firmly believe that the body is more than capable of vaginal births unless there is an actual reason you need a c/s. (Certain birthing positions, risk to the child, etc) And even then I would get more than one doctor to say so. I&#039;m hoping for as close to an intervention free birth as possible, and I&#039;m nervous that I might find a hospital that does these practices. I&#039;m praying my age won&#039;t make them try to force me into anything as well. I&#039;m barely 20, and &quot;young and uneducated&quot; as a past doctor once told me. How can I make sure the hospital is honest about what they do? Things could easily change once I&#039;m actually in labour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really!! late post, but I&#8217;ve been doing all the possible research I can on pregnancy and labor. (I&#8217;m a few months along with my first and am trying to figure out what to expect) I&#8217;m shocked that there are doctors that actually doing this stuff. I was reading the past posts of people, and was nearly in tears at some of it. I firmly believe that the body is more than capable of vaginal births unless there is an actual reason you need a c/s. (Certain birthing positions, risk to the child, etc) And even then I would get more than one doctor to say so. I&#8217;m hoping for as close to an intervention free birth as possible, and I&#8217;m nervous that I might find a hospital that does these practices. I&#8217;m praying my age won&#8217;t make them try to force me into anything as well. I&#8217;m barely 20, and &#8220;young and uneducated&#8221; as a past doctor once told me. How can I make sure the hospital is honest about what they do? Things could easily change once I&#8217;m actually in labour.</p>
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		<title>By: cyrell</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am from germany and i think the hospitals here are on the same way as the one you describe.

I was the typical case, everything normal, baby healthy, no problems during pregnancy, no risks, first baby/pregnancy.

For 4 days i felt during the night hours some cramps and at the fourth day they got hard enough for me that i thought, better get to the hospital.

When i was there the pain got away, i could not really feel the contractions and then the midwife(one of them has always to attend a birth in hermany) came and talked about getting something to get the contractions stronger and all the crap and they made such a fuss when my pains did not return(contractions did not get stronger) and instead of telling me to go home and come again later they said i had to get a drip or a cesarian.

i resufed the cesarian but.,.well..i was young and had no experience and i did not open up with the drip and was nearly 20 hours in pain and because of the drip i nearly bleed out after i gave birth because the muscles were too tired to contract and stop the bleeding.

my daughter was fine and i am proud and happy that i could refuse the cesarian and not let me get pushed into it.

when i look at what happend after 3 years i can tell 100% that there was no reason for these so called midwifes to panik, to give me a drip or suggest a cesarian.

i am still so angry and want to strangle these bitches..i was in a hell of pain and had to get these drip in the spine which turned me numb and i could not pee and all the shit happend...i was 16 hours in pain that i screamed with each contraction befor they gave me something.

they stressed me with this suggestion of a cesarian not even two hours after i arrived there.

the doc cut me and i had problems and pains from the scar down there really bad for a year and even now i sometimes have problems.

i am just happy my daughter was healthy and got all 10 points and there was never a bad sign for her on the horizon.

i left the hospital the next day and because i wanted to go home and refused their *care* they did not even wheel me to the entrance..i had to walk all the way from the back of the basement and take the stairs and had lost so much blood the day befor i was so dizzy for weeks.  i had to stop on the way and put my baby down because i had to catch my breath..and all the nurses did was criticize me because i refused the hepatitis shot for my daughter and their *care*

if i had not asked about the medication they gave me, they would have given me a medicine which would have prevented the lactating...whcih was for the woman next to me...

And god forbide they gave me any more painkillers...

I had to call for a nurse because i bleed all over the bed and it did not stop ...if i would have fallen aslep after 36 hours awake i would have bleed to death.

than they gave me some stuff to lt the muscles contract and it was worse than the labor..i screamed so loud,....

i told the doc i refused the drip until i get something for the pain...thesy did not want me to give anything because i could fall asleep then and bleed to death and the pain should keep me awake...and all the other patients at the floor because of my screaming..hell yeah...great.


so i got my painkillers i.v. and the drip  and fleed the next day without some proper night rest because..well...all the stress and the pain and i feared they would maybe switch my baby with the one of an other mom...really...

ok that was too much panic but hell...who knows? there happend so much shit.

the midwife/nurse never asked me if i wanted something to drink or eat while my contractions were low, never gave some good advise or such a thing...

and this hospital was one of the best????

i am still so angry and if i ever get pregnant again i will know better...and only get at the hospital when the baby is read to drop out

i was so weak for months and had these pains where they cut me and could not go normal to the toilet..and sex, don´t talk about sex...the first two years there was always these horrible pain in the scar.

and i know that it disturbed the relationship wit my daughter because of the pain.

the pain also caused my milk to drop in really late and i had problems nursing for months.

i never thought i would have problems because my breasts started oozing fluid at the 5 month...and at the eight month i was not dropping fluid, it was running like crazy, i could watch it flow in a steady stream.

and after birth...nothing

but like hell i would give up on that..no, never.

It was never really comfortable, in the beginning really painful for the first half year but i nursed her for 3 years.

i am from a family with some issues like hay fever, asthmatic problems, skin problems, allergies...and she has none of this problems even when from both of her parents and grandparents she could have recieved something..nursing was the best i could do for her and she is the healthiest little girl.

i went to an other doc because the first never listened to me and when i told about her allergic reaction to cow milk he said to feed her small ammounts and it would go away...

what a cow crap....i still have these problems...and when should it go away, with 30, 50? when i am dead?

i changed the milk susbtitute when i realised her stomach pain and skin issues came from the ingredients and got soemthing on soy base for the time when i could not give enough milk.

the doc was oh soooo helpfull..and he too, like the hospital, is one of the *best*


but my new one is gold...and he is really happy how well she is.

she never got soemthing that had to be treated with antibiotics, not like all the other children.

i just wish more people would make their own decisions and not do brainless everything the doc tells them..not the doc is the problem, it is the way how the costumer is.

if people would question more the docs could not make such a fuss..same with the pig flu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from germany and i think the hospitals here are on the same way as the one you describe.</p>
<p>I was the typical case, everything normal, baby healthy, no problems during pregnancy, no risks, first baby/pregnancy.</p>
<p>For 4 days i felt during the night hours some cramps and at the fourth day they got hard enough for me that i thought, better get to the hospital.</p>
<p>When i was there the pain got away, i could not really feel the contractions and then the midwife(one of them has always to attend a birth in hermany) came and talked about getting something to get the contractions stronger and all the crap and they made such a fuss when my pains did not return(contractions did not get stronger) and instead of telling me to go home and come again later they said i had to get a drip or a cesarian.</p>
<p>i resufed the cesarian but.,.well..i was young and had no experience and i did not open up with the drip and was nearly 20 hours in pain and because of the drip i nearly bleed out after i gave birth because the muscles were too tired to contract and stop the bleeding.</p>
<p>my daughter was fine and i am proud and happy that i could refuse the cesarian and not let me get pushed into it.</p>
<p>when i look at what happend after 3 years i can tell 100% that there was no reason for these so called midwifes to panik, to give me a drip or suggest a cesarian.</p>
<p>i am still so angry and want to strangle these bitches..i was in a hell of pain and had to get these drip in the spine which turned me numb and i could not pee and all the shit happend&#8230;i was 16 hours in pain that i screamed with each contraction befor they gave me something.</p>
<p>they stressed me with this suggestion of a cesarian not even two hours after i arrived there.</p>
<p>the doc cut me and i had problems and pains from the scar down there really bad for a year and even now i sometimes have problems.</p>
<p>i am just happy my daughter was healthy and got all 10 points and there was never a bad sign for her on the horizon.</p>
<p>i left the hospital the next day and because i wanted to go home and refused their *care* they did not even wheel me to the entrance..i had to walk all the way from the back of the basement and take the stairs and had lost so much blood the day befor i was so dizzy for weeks.  i had to stop on the way and put my baby down because i had to catch my breath..and all the nurses did was criticize me because i refused the hepatitis shot for my daughter and their *care*</p>
<p>if i had not asked about the medication they gave me, they would have given me a medicine which would have prevented the lactating&#8230;whcih was for the woman next to me&#8230;</p>
<p>And god forbide they gave me any more painkillers&#8230;</p>
<p>I had to call for a nurse because i bleed all over the bed and it did not stop &#8230;if i would have fallen aslep after 36 hours awake i would have bleed to death.</p>
<p>than they gave me some stuff to lt the muscles contract and it was worse than the labor..i screamed so loud,&#8230;.</p>
<p>i told the doc i refused the drip until i get something for the pain&#8230;thesy did not want me to give anything because i could fall asleep then and bleed to death and the pain should keep me awake&#8230;and all the other patients at the floor because of my screaming..hell yeah&#8230;great.</p>
<p>so i got my painkillers i.v. and the drip  and fleed the next day without some proper night rest because..well&#8230;all the stress and the pain and i feared they would maybe switch my baby with the one of an other mom&#8230;really&#8230;</p>
<p>ok that was too much panic but hell&#8230;who knows? there happend so much shit.</p>
<p>the midwife/nurse never asked me if i wanted something to drink or eat while my contractions were low, never gave some good advise or such a thing&#8230;</p>
<p>and this hospital was one of the best????</p>
<p>i am still so angry and if i ever get pregnant again i will know better&#8230;and only get at the hospital when the baby is read to drop out</p>
<p>i was so weak for months and had these pains where they cut me and could not go normal to the toilet..and sex, don´t talk about sex&#8230;the first two years there was always these horrible pain in the scar.</p>
<p>and i know that it disturbed the relationship wit my daughter because of the pain.</p>
<p>the pain also caused my milk to drop in really late and i had problems nursing for months.</p>
<p>i never thought i would have problems because my breasts started oozing fluid at the 5 month&#8230;and at the eight month i was not dropping fluid, it was running like crazy, i could watch it flow in a steady stream.</p>
<p>and after birth&#8230;nothing</p>
<p>but like hell i would give up on that..no, never.</p>
<p>It was never really comfortable, in the beginning really painful for the first half year but i nursed her for 3 years.</p>
<p>i am from a family with some issues like hay fever, asthmatic problems, skin problems, allergies&#8230;and she has none of this problems even when from both of her parents and grandparents she could have recieved something..nursing was the best i could do for her and she is the healthiest little girl.</p>
<p>i went to an other doc because the first never listened to me and when i told about her allergic reaction to cow milk he said to feed her small ammounts and it would go away&#8230;</p>
<p>what a cow crap&#8230;.i still have these problems&#8230;and when should it go away, with 30, 50? when i am dead?</p>
<p>i changed the milk susbtitute when i realised her stomach pain and skin issues came from the ingredients and got soemthing on soy base for the time when i could not give enough milk.</p>
<p>the doc was oh soooo helpfull..and he too, like the hospital, is one of the *best*</p>
<p>but my new one is gold&#8230;and he is really happy how well she is.</p>
<p>she never got soemthing that had to be treated with antibiotics, not like all the other children.</p>
<p>i just wish more people would make their own decisions and not do brainless everything the doc tells them..not the doc is the problem, it is the way how the costumer is.</p>
<p>if people would question more the docs could not make such a fuss..same with the pig flu</p>
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		<title>By: Wendyrful</title>
		<link>http://nursingbirth.com/2009/06/16/don%e2%80%99t-let-this-happen-to-you-22-part-3-a-discussion-about-elective-primary-cesarean-section-cesarean-delivery-on-maternal-request-cdmr/#comment-1904</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That consent form you show here is much more plain, and shows a list of bulletted points of possible risks durring the c-section.  I&#039;m pretty certain that our hospitals around these parts don&#039;t have anything like that spelled out.  
On a slightly different note, I attended a birth once, where the anesthesiologist came in and told the mom thata she&#039;d explain everything &#039;AFTER&#039; the epidual was in place, since mom was clearly in pain at that time... afterward, when mom was &#039;comfortable&#039;, the Dr. stated she teaches med school, actaully drew a whole diagram of the pocedure for mom to better understand, WHAT WAS ALREADY DONE TO HER!!!!!!!  How is that right?!?!?!?!?!?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That consent form you show here is much more plain, and shows a list of bulletted points of possible risks durring the c-section.  I&#8217;m pretty certain that our hospitals around these parts don&#8217;t have anything like that spelled out.<br />
On a slightly different note, I attended a birth once, where the anesthesiologist came in and told the mom thata she&#8217;d explain everything &#8216;AFTER&#8217; the epidual was in place, since mom was clearly in pain at that time&#8230; afterward, when mom was &#8216;comfortable&#8217;, the Dr. stated she teaches med school, actaully drew a whole diagram of the pocedure for mom to better understand, WHAT WAS ALREADY DONE TO HER!!!!!!!  How is that right?!?!?!?!?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://nursingbirth.com/2009/06/16/don%e2%80%99t-let-this-happen-to-you-22-part-3-a-discussion-about-elective-primary-cesarean-section-cesarean-delivery-on-maternal-request-cdmr/#comment-1859</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The important thing to also remember is the way that the information is conveyed from the doctor.  They totally minimize the risks of the cesarean and exaggerate the risks of a vaginal birth, especially a VBAC.  *gasp*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The important thing to also remember is the way that the information is conveyed from the doctor.  They totally minimize the risks of the cesarean and exaggerate the risks of a vaginal birth, especially a VBAC.  *gasp*</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff and Kristy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff and Kristy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your blog.  I had a necessary c-section with my first (due to a vasa previa that was not detected by ultrasound) and it saved her life.  So I can actually say that I am thankful for my Dr&#039;s decision to act quickly and get her out.  But I was definitely disappointed when pregnant with #2 and recommended a repeat c-section.  I was told of the &quot;catastrophic&quot; risks of a VBAC over and over (and this is hard for any expectant mother to hear especially after nearly losing one child), but not one word about the risks of multiple c-sections.  So I just want to thank you for doing all that you can to change the birthing culture in this country.  

ps. I had a successful VBAC!  ...minus the episiotomy they performed w/o asking but that is another story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your blog.  I had a necessary c-section with my first (due to a vasa previa that was not detected by ultrasound) and it saved her life.  So I can actually say that I am thankful for my Dr&#8217;s decision to act quickly and get her out.  But I was definitely disappointed when pregnant with #2 and recommended a repeat c-section.  I was told of the &#8220;catastrophic&#8221; risks of a VBAC over and over (and this is hard for any expectant mother to hear especially after nearly losing one child), but not one word about the risks of multiple c-sections.  So I just want to thank you for doing all that you can to change the birthing culture in this country.  </p>
<p>ps. I had a successful VBAC!  &#8230;minus the episiotomy they performed w/o asking but that is another story.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much! That makes me feel better about her records, anyway!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much! That makes me feel better about her records, anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: nursingbirth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Renee, that is a great question.  The good news is, 24% sucrose solution is given in very small amounts (1 mililiter is like a few drops from an eye dropper) to neonates for pain relief.  Here&#039;s an article that explains it more: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458592_3

For example, it is often given to baby boys during circumcision either on a gloved finger or a pacifier because the sucking action is very soothing.  Obviously they did not do a circumcision on your daughter but perhaps they gave it to your daughter following a vaccination, heel stick, on injection of some type?  

I agree with you that parents should be told what is being given to their babies.  However since sucrose solution used for pain relief is not considered a drug, it does not require special permission from moms or dads to be given in most hospitals so that is probably why you didnt know.  However, I can understand if you are still a bit miffed.  The good news is that the 1mL of sucrose solution is NOT the same thing as giving a baby a bottle of &quot;sugar water&quot; (something that most breastfeeding moms (and lactation consultants for that matter) do no appreciate and often specifically request for it NOT to be given).  That is called &quot;Dextrose 5%&quot; and it is given in a bottle.  Sucrose solution for pain relief is NOT given in a bottle. 

Thanks for your great question!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee, that is a great question.  The good news is, 24% sucrose solution is given in very small amounts (1 mililiter is like a few drops from an eye dropper) to neonates for pain relief.  Here&#8217;s an article that explains it more: <a href="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458592_3" rel="nofollow">http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458592_3</a></p>
<p>For example, it is often given to baby boys during circumcision either on a gloved finger or a pacifier because the sucking action is very soothing.  Obviously they did not do a circumcision on your daughter but perhaps they gave it to your daughter following a vaccination, heel stick, on injection of some type?  </p>
<p>I agree with you that parents should be told what is being given to their babies.  However since sucrose solution used for pain relief is not considered a drug, it does not require special permission from moms or dads to be given in most hospitals so that is probably why you didnt know.  However, I can understand if you are still a bit miffed.  The good news is that the 1mL of sucrose solution is NOT the same thing as giving a baby a bottle of &#8220;sugar water&#8221; (something that most breastfeeding moms (and lactation consultants for that matter) do no appreciate and often specifically request for it NOT to be given).  That is called &#8220;Dextrose 5%&#8221; and it is given in a bottle.  Sucrose solution for pain relief is NOT given in a bottle. </p>
<p>Thanks for your great question!</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question- sorry it&#039;s not related to the post, but I didn&#039;t know where to just send a message. I got my records from the hospital and found some things that didn&#039;t seem right so I also got my daughter&#039;s. It looks ok except for one thing listed under meds given. It says that 1 ml of 24% sucrose was given. Is this sugar water? And what would it be given for? I was breastfeeding and had it in my plan to not give anything that I did not approve of. Thank you, I know I&#039;ll get a knowledgeable answer from you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question- sorry it&#8217;s not related to the post, but I didn&#8217;t know where to just send a message. I got my records from the hospital and found some things that didn&#8217;t seem right so I also got my daughter&#8217;s. It looks ok except for one thing listed under meds given. It says that 1 ml of 24% sucrose was given. Is this sugar water? And what would it be given for? I was breastfeeding and had it in my plan to not give anything that I did not approve of. Thank you, I know I&#8217;ll get a knowledgeable answer from you!</p>
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		<title>By: nursingbirth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aisha, I am so happy you asked all about your hospitals (and your birth attendants) stats!!!  And I am so happy you have found out that the most important predictor of your risk of c/s, episiotomy, vacuum, induction, and augmentation is mostly about the PROVIDER you choose!!  Happy Birthing!! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aisha, I am so happy you asked all about your hospitals (and your birth attendants) stats!!!  And I am so happy you have found out that the most important predictor of your risk of c/s, episiotomy, vacuum, induction, and augmentation is mostly about the PROVIDER you choose!!  Happy Birthing!! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s get something straight, shall we? &#171; Woman to Woman Childbirth Education</title>
		<link>http://nursingbirth.com/2009/06/16/don%e2%80%99t-let-this-happen-to-you-22-part-3-a-discussion-about-elective-primary-cesarean-section-cesarean-delivery-on-maternal-request-cdmr/#comment-1163</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] surprised that ACOG would take such a position without evidence&#8230; remember their stance on elective C-sections, as well as on home [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] surprised that ACOG would take such a position without evidence&#8230; remember their stance on elective C-sections, as well as on home [...]</p>
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